Hyper's Blackwings

This is the place to tell us about your deck and to give other people feedback on theirs.

Please be nice to new players. Don't expect everyone to be an expert, that is why they are asking for advice, after-all.
User avatar
HyperonicX
Ultimate Rare Duelist
Posts: 854
Joined: Tue Oct 18, 2011 3:39 am
Location: The TARDIS.
Contact:

Hyper's Blackwings

Post by HyperonicX » Tue Oct 25, 2011 12:52 am

It's me again.

This time I would like, and appreciate some help with my Blackwing deck.

As I stated in my Alien topic, I can't afford these cards: Effect Veiler, Tour Guide, or any of the REALLY expensive cards (like AoJ Catastor or Mist Wurm.)

Thunder King Rai-Oh's I can't get either, because:
1. I can't find the common version anywhere. (Yes I do realize that you can get them in the Legendary Collection 2 Mega Packs.)
2. On ebay they're like $8+ there for the common version, and that's expensive!

I'm a budget duelist, at most and have terrible luck when it comes to trying to get certain cards from boosters.

Anyway, here's the decklist so far.

[spoiler]MONSTERS (21)

3 Shura the Blue Flame*
3 Bora the Spear*
3 Blizzard the Far North*
1 Vayu the Emblem of Honor*
1 Sirocco the Dawn*
1 Kalut the Moon Shadow*
1 Gale the Whirlwind*
1 Jin the Rain Shadow*
1 Gorz the Emissary of Darkness*
1 Dark Armed Dragon*
2 Cyber Dragon (One of the only LIGHT monsters I have/can afford.)
1 Black Luster Soldier - Envoy of the Beginning
2 Winged Kuriboh (only cause they, along with Cyber are the only LIGHT monsters I have/can afford.)

SPELLS (11)

3 Pot of Duality
2 Mystical Space Typhoon
1 Book of Moon
1 Black Whirlwind
1 Allure of Darkness
1 Monster Reborn
1 Dark Hole
1 Heavy Storm

TRAPS (8)

3 Icarus Attack
2 Mind Crush
1 Solemn Judgement
1 Trap Dustshoot
1 Torrential Tribute


EXTRA (15)

1 Ally of Justice Decisive Armor
1 Trishula, Dragon of the Ice Barrier
1 Red Dragon Archfiend
2 Stardust Dragon
2 Blackwing Armor Master
1 Black Rose Dragon
1 Broniac, Dragon of the Ice Barrier
2 Blackwing Armed Wing
1 Chimeratech Fortress Dragon (only cause I have Cyber Dragons in there.)
2 Wind Up Zenmeister
1 No. 39: Utopia[/spoiler]
Living on the streets, you gotta be tuff. That's why they call us STREET TUFFS!

My decks:
Blackwings
Aliens
Karkakuri

User avatar
moonsaber
Ghost Rare Duelist
Posts: 6684
Joined: Fri Sep 26, 2008 1:21 am
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Contact:

Re: Hyper's Blackwings

Post by moonsaber » Tue Oct 25, 2011 2:15 am

i'm guessing you can't get zephyros?

Out of curiosity why dont you buy thunder kings instead of boosters? Or alternately save your money so you can get even more expensive cards rather than buying boosters? Or are we talking about tournament prize boosters here?

Anyways onto actual advice (keeping it as budget as possible):

-2 mind crush

+2 bottomless (solemn warning instead when the tins come out)

-2 winged kuriboh

+2 ryko (if you can't get ryko then +1 cyber dragon +1 marshmallon)

Although honestly since you can't get rai-oh or veiler you might be better off just dropping the BLS engine completely.
D Net Username: Moonsaber
Australian Nationals 2015 Top 64 (9th in swiss)
Oceanic championship 2015 Top 8 (2nd in swiss)
YCS Sydney 2016 Top 8 (5th in swiss)

User avatar
HyperonicX
Ultimate Rare Duelist
Posts: 854
Joined: Tue Oct 18, 2011 3:39 am
Location: The TARDIS.
Contact:

Re: Hyper's Blackwings

Post by HyperonicX » Tue Oct 25, 2011 2:26 am

No. Can't get that either.

Just regular boosters, which I get now and then, mostly in the tins.

I can't get Ryko, I'm afraid. I'll make the changes you suggested.

I do have the Mind Crushes, but I have replaced them with the BTH's.

If I were to drop the BLS engine, then what should I do then? What should I replace the cards with? I'll put BLS into my Aliens deck if that's the case, of course.
Living on the streets, you gotta be tuff. That's why they call us STREET TUFFS!

My decks:
Blackwings
Aliens
Karkakuri

User avatar
moonsaber
Ghost Rare Duelist
Posts: 6684
Joined: Fri Sep 26, 2008 1:21 am
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Contact:

Re: Hyper's Blackwings

Post by moonsaber » Tue Oct 25, 2011 2:30 am

MONSTERS (16)

3 Shura the Blue Flame*
3 Bora the Spear*
3 Blizzard the Far North*
1 Vayu the Emblem of Honor*
1 Sirocco the Dawn*
1 Kalut the Moon Shadow*
1 Gale the Whirlwind*
1 Jin the Rain Shadow*
1 Gorz the Emissary of Darkness*
1 Dark Armed Dragon*

SPELLS (11)

3 Pot of Duality
2 Mystical Space Typhoon
1 Book of Moon
1 Black Whirlwind
1 Allure of Darkness
1 Monster Reborn
1 Dark Hole
1 Heavy Storm

TRAPS (13)

3 Icarus Attack
2 BTH
2 Prison (if you cant get prison then compulsory)
2 Starlight road
1 Mirror Force
1 Solemn Judgement
1 Trap Dustshoot
1 Torrential Tribute


EXTRA (15)

1 Ally of Justice Decisive Armor
1 Trishula, Dragon of the Ice Barrier
1 Red Dragon Archfiend
2 Stardust Dragon
2 Blackwing Armor Master
1 Black Rose Dragon
1 Broniac, Dragon of the Ice Barrier
2 Blackwing Armed Wing
1 Chimeratech Fortress Dragon (only cause I have Cyber Dragons in there.)
2 Wind Up Zenmeister
1 No. 39: Utopia

Something like this.

Although TBH i'm not terribly experienced with blackwings, PT could probs provide better advice.
D Net Username: Moonsaber
Australian Nationals 2015 Top 64 (9th in swiss)
Oceanic championship 2015 Top 8 (2nd in swiss)
YCS Sydney 2016 Top 8 (5th in swiss)

User avatar
HyperonicX
Ultimate Rare Duelist
Posts: 854
Joined: Tue Oct 18, 2011 3:39 am
Location: The TARDIS.
Contact:

Re: Hyper's Blackwings

Post by HyperonicX » Tue Oct 25, 2011 2:39 am

That's kinda what I had before the BLS engine, tbqh.

But I'll think about it.

I'll still try to get the TKR's, and EV's regardless. It may take me a while.

And I do have DP's.
Living on the streets, you gotta be tuff. That's why they call us STREET TUFFS!

My decks:
Blackwings
Aliens
Karkakuri

User avatar
moonsaber
Ghost Rare Duelist
Posts: 6684
Joined: Fri Sep 26, 2008 1:21 am
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Contact:

Re: Hyper's Blackwings

Post by moonsaber » Tue Oct 25, 2011 2:41 am

HyperonicX wrote:That's kinda what I had before the BLS engine, tbqh.

But I'll think about it.

I'll still try to get the TKR's, and EV's regardless. It may take me a while.

And I do have DP's.
If you can get veilers/raiohs that would be best :P
D Net Username: Moonsaber
Australian Nationals 2015 Top 64 (9th in swiss)
Oceanic championship 2015 Top 8 (2nd in swiss)
YCS Sydney 2016 Top 8 (5th in swiss)

User avatar
HyperonicX
Ultimate Rare Duelist
Posts: 854
Joined: Tue Oct 18, 2011 3:39 am
Location: The TARDIS.
Contact:

Re: Hyper's Blackwings

Post by HyperonicX » Tue Oct 25, 2011 2:43 am

Yeah. That's what I'm thinking.
Living on the streets, you gotta be tuff. That's why they call us STREET TUFFS!

My decks:
Blackwings
Aliens
Karkakuri

User avatar
moonsaber
Ghost Rare Duelist
Posts: 6684
Joined: Fri Sep 26, 2008 1:21 am
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Contact:

Re: Hyper's Blackwings

Post by moonsaber » Tue Oct 25, 2011 2:46 am

HyperonicX wrote:Yeah. That's what I'm thinking.
Or even if you just get the thunder kings that will work too, veilers also will be better but the engine will be runnable if you just have thunder kings, in fact I would try to get 3 thunder kings, the card is amazing this format.
D Net Username: Moonsaber
Australian Nationals 2015 Top 64 (9th in swiss)
Oceanic championship 2015 Top 8 (2nd in swiss)
YCS Sydney 2016 Top 8 (5th in swiss)

User avatar
HyperonicX
Ultimate Rare Duelist
Posts: 854
Joined: Tue Oct 18, 2011 3:39 am
Location: The TARDIS.
Contact:

Re: Hyper's Blackwings

Post by HyperonicX » Tue Oct 25, 2011 3:00 am

I'm doing some research on getting the cards right now. I'll have to wait till I get paid next before I can do anything, but I'm pretty sure I'll be able to get both, even though they are expensive as heck.
Living on the streets, you gotta be tuff. That's why they call us STREET TUFFS!

My decks:
Blackwings
Aliens
Karkakuri

User avatar
moonsaber
Ghost Rare Duelist
Posts: 6684
Joined: Fri Sep 26, 2008 1:21 am
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Contact:

Re: Hyper's Blackwings

Post by moonsaber » Tue Oct 25, 2011 3:03 am

HyperonicX wrote:I'm doing some research on getting the cards right now. I'll have to wait till I get paid next before I can do anything, but I'm pretty sure I'll be able to get both, even though they are expensive as heck.
awesome :D
D Net Username: Moonsaber
Australian Nationals 2015 Top 64 (9th in swiss)
Oceanic championship 2015 Top 8 (2nd in swiss)
YCS Sydney 2016 Top 8 (5th in swiss)

User avatar
HyperonicX
Ultimate Rare Duelist
Posts: 854
Joined: Tue Oct 18, 2011 3:39 am
Location: The TARDIS.
Contact:

Re: Hyper's Blackwings

Post by HyperonicX » Tue Oct 25, 2011 3:06 am

I'm gonna get 3 TKR's, cause EV's are around $20 each on ebay, not including P+H.

I'll just have to keep 1 Cyber Dragon in my deck.

Thanks for all your help!
Living on the streets, you gotta be tuff. That's why they call us STREET TUFFS!

My decks:
Blackwings
Aliens
Karkakuri

User avatar
moonsaber
Ghost Rare Duelist
Posts: 6684
Joined: Fri Sep 26, 2008 1:21 am
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Contact:

Re: Hyper's Blackwings

Post by moonsaber » Tue Oct 25, 2011 3:14 am

HyperonicX wrote:I'm gonna get 3 TKR's, cause EV's are around $20 each on ebay, not including P+H.

I'll just have to keep 1 Cyber Dragon in my deck.

Thanks for all your help!
That sounds fine.

Glad to help :)
D Net Username: Moonsaber
Australian Nationals 2015 Top 64 (9th in swiss)
Oceanic championship 2015 Top 8 (2nd in swiss)
YCS Sydney 2016 Top 8 (5th in swiss)

User avatar
-thePTguy
Parallel Rare Duelist
Posts: 3661
Joined: Thu Dec 23, 2010 1:51 pm
Location: Western Europe, Pallet Town

Re: Hyper's Blackwings

Post by -thePTguy » Tue Oct 25, 2011 6:22 am

Yup, Rai-Ohs and Veilers are the top choice.

So, if you're getting them and still want to fit in BLS, you should drop (from cheese's build) Sirocco/Vayu/2 Prison/1 Starlight Road for 2 Veiler/2 Rai-Oh/BLS.

But for now it's fine. Even though Sirocco and Vayu aren't really optimal choices anymore, you could do with a Sangan or something else.
Image
*Signature created by Kamikon Wolf*
Flu wrote:Only real men use fairies.

User avatar
HyperonicX
Ultimate Rare Duelist
Posts: 854
Joined: Tue Oct 18, 2011 3:39 am
Location: The TARDIS.
Contact:

Re: Hyper's Blackwings

Post by HyperonicX » Tue Oct 25, 2011 6:51 am

I can't get the veilers, unless I (somehow) get lucky to get them in a Yusei pack 3.

Btw, the decklist above that thecheeseking posted was merely a decklist that would be if I WERE to drop the BLS engine.

But right now my current decklist is as follows:

MONSTERS (21)

3 Shura the Blue Flame
3 Bora the Spear
3 Blizzard the Far North
1 Vayu the Emblem of Honor
1 Sirocco the Dawn
1 Kalut the Moon Shadow
1 Gale the Whirlwind
1 Jin the Rain Shadow
1 Gorz the Emissary of Darkness
1 Dark Armed Dragon
3 Cyber Dragon
1 Black Luster Soldier - Envoy of the Beginning
1 Marshmellon

SPELLS (11)

3 Pot of Duality
2 Mystical Space Typhoon
1 Book of Moon
1 Black Whirlwind
1 Allure of Darkness
1 Monster Reborn
1 Dark Hole
1 Heavy Storm

TRAPS (8)

3 Icarus Attack
2 Bottomless Trap Hole
1 Solemn Judgment
1 Trap Dustshoot
1 Torrential Tribute


I could drop Vayu and Sirocco and put in a Sangan and a Starlight Road in their place, if that's a good idea.
Living on the streets, you gotta be tuff. That's why they call us STREET TUFFS!

My decks:
Blackwings
Aliens
Karkakuri

User avatar
-thePTguy
Parallel Rare Duelist
Posts: 3661
Joined: Thu Dec 23, 2010 1:51 pm
Location: Western Europe, Pallet Town

Re: Hyper's Blackwings

Post by -thePTguy » Tue Oct 25, 2011 6:55 am

Why don't you save your money to buy the Veilers instead of buying packs where you're not guaranteed to pull what you want/need ? :/
Image
*Signature created by Kamikon Wolf*
Flu wrote:Only real men use fairies.

Post Reply