Card Set: Renewed Hope [RNDH]

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Re: Card Set Submission: Renewed Hope [RNH] - finalized

Post by rampage42 » Thu Aug 06, 2009 5:13 pm

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Re: Card Set Revision: Renewed Hope [RNH]

Post by Akirus » Thu Sep 10, 2009 2:03 am

Made some random D-Heros for some reason.

Card Name: Destiny Hero - Illusionist
Card Type: Monster/Effect
Attribute: Dark
Type: Warrior
Level: 3
ATK/DEF: 900/500
Card Text: When this card is Normal Summoned, you can remove this card from play to draw 1 card and Special Summon 1 "Illusionist Token" (Fiend-Type/Dark/Level 1/ATK 450/DEF 250) on your side of the field in Attack Position. It cannot attack and it is destroyed during your opponent's next End Phase.

Card Name: Destiny Hero - Jazz Jammer
Card Type: Monster/Effect
Attribute: Dark
Type: Warrior
Level: 4
ATK/DEF: 1500/300
Card Text: While this card is in your Graveyard, you can remove it from play to select 1 face-up monster you control. It gains 300 ATK and DEF and is treated as a Tuner monster. When the selected monster is removed from the field, remove it from play.

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Re: Card Set Revision: Renewed Hope [RNH]

Post by Aleva » Thu Sep 10, 2009 5:53 am

With Illusionist, I'd rather restrict the way you can use it rather than attacking. I mean, 450 LP won't make much difference, will it? But you can use still use it for Syncs and other card costs. Change to "Cannot be Tributed" or something?

Jazz Jammer looks like a new LS tech.

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Re: Card Set Revision: Renewed Hope [RNDH]

Post by Akirus » Fri Oct 09, 2009 1:19 am

Merged TBF-RNH and did some other small changes.

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Re: Card Set: Renewed Hope [RNDH]

Post by MysticJhn » Sun Sep 26, 2010 9:53 pm

While working on adding this set, I came upon a problem card.

Card Name: Sacrilegious Offering
Card Type: Monster/Synchro/Effect
Attribute: Light
Type: Fairy
Level: ?
ATK/DEF: 0/0
Card Text: 1 LIGHT Tuner + 1 or more non-Tuner LIGHT monsters
This card can only be Summoned by Synchro Summon. While this card is in your Extra Deck, this card's Level is equal to the total of all LIGHT monsters on the field. When this card is Summoned, remove it from play and draw cards equal to the amount of Synchro Material monsters sent to the Graveyard for the Synchro Summon of this card + 1. You can reveal all the cards drawn by this effect to Special Summon all revealed LIGHT monsters to your side of the field.


This thing's Level is listed as ?.
I entered that in YVD, but when I checked to see if it worked, YVD gave it a Run Time Error.
As in ? doesn't work in YVD as a Level.
This makes sense because there is no card in the game with a ? Level.
Not only that, how does that effect even work?
If there are 5 LIGHT monsters on the field, is this card's Level 5?
Or, lets pretend all 5 of those monsters' Levels are 3, would this monster's Level be 15, which is impossible?
The wording is bad there.

All the same, a ? Level doesn't work in YuGiOh, it's impossible to do.
Especially since effects don't even work while in the Extra Deck.
I'm not sure if Akirus actually tested this card when testing the sets, but YVD doesn't accept the ?.
Not to mention that the ? Level doesn't even seem to matter as far as the effect is concerned.

Unless all the LIGHT monsters on the field are Level 1, you could never Synchro Summon it, and if it's Level is equal to the combined Levels of all the Light monsters on the field, it goes above a Level 12.

So, to avoid that messyness, let's say we just give this card a fixed Level.
Otherwise we need to scrap it, because YVD doesn't allow for a ? Level and that's not even really feasable in the real game.
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Re: Card Set: Renewed Hope [RNDH]

Post by DoomMoose » Sun Sep 26, 2010 10:36 pm

If it allows level 0:
Card Name: Sacrilegious Offering
Card Type: Monster/Synchro/Effect
Attribute: Light
Type: Fairy
Level: 0
ATK/DEF: 0/0
Card Text: 1 LIGHT Tuner + 1 or more non-Tuner LIGHT monsters
This card can only be Summoned by Synchro Summon. While this card is in your Extra Deck, this card gains levels equal to the total levels of all LIGHT monsters on the field. When this card is Summoned, remove it from play and draw cards equal to the amount of Synchro Material monsters sent to the Graveyard for the Synchro Summon of this card + 1. You can reveal all the cards drawn by this effect to Special Summon all revealed LIGHT monsters to your side of the field.

If it doesn't:
Card Name: Sacrilegious Offering
Card Type: Monster/Synchro/Effect
Attribute: Light
Type: Fairy
Level: 1
ATK/DEF: 0/0
Card Text: 1 LIGHT Tuner + 1 or more non-Tuner LIGHT monsters
This card can only be Summoned by Synchro Summon. While this card is in your Extra Deck, this card gains levels equal to the total levels of all LIGHT monsters on the field minus 1. When this card is Summoned, remove it from play and draw cards equal to the amount of Synchro Material monsters sent to the Graveyard for the Synchro Summon of this card + 1. You can reveal all the cards drawn by this effect to Special Summon all revealed LIGHT monsters to your side of the field.

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Re: Card Set: Renewed Hope [RNDH]

Post by Aleva » Sun Sep 26, 2010 10:42 pm

I have it in the set right here... it opens fine for me. And the idea is that its level is equal to the level of all LIGHT monsters on the field. If not... just leave its level as 0 and reword it a bit. And effects can work in the Extra Deck if a card specifically says that it does, can't it?

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Re: Card Set: Renewed Hope [RNDH]

Post by MysticJhn » Sun Sep 26, 2010 10:45 pm

The program opens fine and the set opens fine, I can search it.

But if you click it to see it's stats and effect, THEN the Run Time error comes up.

And still, it's Level could easily go over 12 (I'm going to errata that so it's more clear).
I'll also make it a Level 1, because there is no Level 0 in this game, not even by effect.
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Re: Card Set: Renewed Hope [RNDH]

Post by Aleva » Mon Sep 27, 2010 1:48 am

Doesn't happen with mine...

Well, I don't mind about what you do with it.

We don't have Level 0s, but we have negative Dark Synchos .

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Re: Card Set: Renewed Hope [RNDH]

Post by MysticJhn » Mon Sep 27, 2010 2:02 am

I know, I made a bunch of them already.
And the negative levels work perectly fine.
I'm burning through these completed sets pretty easily.
This set is a bit of a pain because there's a lot of things I gotta skip due to some cards and archtypes not existing anymore.
There's a couple "Black Feather" cards I need to rename "Blackwing".
I don't normally read card effects, just copy and paste, sometimes I'll catch an error here or there with typos, or sometimes I'll even just read a card here or there because I find it interesting.
This set, though, I have to read due to all the stuff that's changed since it was made.
Some of these things need an update just because it's supporting things that were renamed when they moved to the TCG.
Like, it's going to be dropped because the card no longer exists in the PCG, but he's got a card in here referencing "Mahou Toshi Endymion", which in the TCG ended up as "Magical Citadel of Endymion".

It's weird, though.
Some of these Blackwing cards must have been added later, because the first 1 or 2 says Black Feather and the rest say Blackwing.

He's got Assault Modes in this set, but they are still being called Buster Mode like in the OCG.
Need to rename them Assault Mode.

And yet, in the same set, he has Infernity support... cards which came out way later than Black Feather was renamed Blackwing and Endymion came out.
It's strange.
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Re: Card Set: Renewed Hope [RNDH]

Post by Aleva » Mon Sep 27, 2010 4:00 am

I think its cause, this set used to be two different sets. The Balancing Force (TBF) was added into this set a long time after because Akirus thought this one was too small.

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Re: Card Set: Renewed Hope [RNDH]

Post by MysticJhn » Mon Sep 27, 2010 4:32 am

Ah, I see, no wonder it's one of his longest sets.
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Re: Card Set: Renewed Hope [RNDH]

Post by MysticJhn » Tue Sep 28, 2010 12:13 am

Issue: Weird ATK

Card Name: X-Archfiend, Corruptor of Souls
Card Type: Monster/Effect
Attribute: Dark
Type: Fiend
Level: 8
ATK/DEF: 2425/2600

Can I just make this 2450 ATK?
2425??
What does this monster do if it's ATK gets halved by an effect?
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Re: Card Set: Renewed Hope [RNDH]

Post by Aleva » Tue Sep 28, 2010 3:07 am

It goes to 1213. Tested a similar case on DS where I kept halving the same monster's ATK.

Imo, doesn't really matter, why can't we be creative about random ATKs?

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Re: Card Set: Renewed Hope [RNDH]

Post by MysticJhn » Tue Sep 28, 2010 3:59 am

It's just unnessisarily odd.
Meh, nvmd, I'll just keep going. >.>

After this set is done, finishing all these completed cards should be a cakewalk.
This is the only really big set left to do and I'm close to the end.
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