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Re: Card Set Submission: Norse Mythology Set [NMV]

Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 5:18 am
by bluebomber2425
Akirus wrote:
bluebomber2425 wrote:just elusive i don't like, the rest are actually good now.
I forgot about it before as well, but I thought I should tell you that Elusive gives the target viking a valkyrie-like effect. That is, the opponent can attack directly if there are no other targetable monsters on the field.
There is a motto in the game that Lifepoints don't matter unless they are zero. Field presence and hand is what counts, so I don't like it as it makes combos way to easy.

Re: Card Set Submission: Norse Mythology Set [NMV]

Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 5:38 am
by Akirus
Valkyries themselves have virtually no field presence, they can't do most of the basic functions of a monster, so Eir just makes up for that deficiency. It also won't stall like you were saying, even if LP is considered meaningless unless you hit 0, a direct hit from 2-3 monsters could mean game or at least pull your opponent into critical levels.

Re: Card Set Submission: Norse Mythology Set [NMV]

Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 8:31 pm
by bluebomber2425
I totally disagree, if a monster stays on the field the higher chance you can make a combo. no cards with even similar effects without some drawback exists, because...well I already mentioned it many times, but w/e. I don't like elusive, but do what you want. Its kinda nice that you can protect a guy that can increase his damage by 2000 and another taht doubles battle damage, leaving your opponent with incrdibly few options outside of s/t.

Re: Card Set Submission: Norse Mythology Set [NMV]

Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 4:18 am
by Akirus
There are hardly any combos you can do with a valkyrie because they can't be synchroed, Tributed, etc so even if she protects a monster at the cost of LP it still evens out. Also you say it's nice to be able to protect Thorkell but I don't see many situations a 3000 ATK monster who can protect itself twice per turn from destruction would be destroyed. Even if they did have 3 monsters that could attack Thorkell and kill him, you'd still let him sponge the hits or else you'd probably die.

Well, we aren't going to get anywhere throwing this back and forth. What do you recommend?

Re: Card Set: Tribute to Odin [NMV]

Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 9:46 pm
by bluebomber2425
I honestly don't have anything else to say :? I just don't like the card, but if you think it works go for it, I stated what I thought were the problems and I could be wrong...so.....yea..

Re: Card Set Revision: Tribute to Odin [NMV]

Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 4:32 am
by Akirus
Updates and fixes...

Card Name: Thorkell the Tall
Card Type: Monster/Effect
Attribute: EARTH
Type: Warrior
Level: 8
ATK/DEF: 3000/2800
Card Text: This card is treated a "Viking" monster. This card cannot be Special Summoned except from the Graveyard by the effect of "Ragnarok". Two times per turn, if this card would be destroyed, it is not destroyed. Battle Damage inflicted by this card is doubled. If this card is sent to the Graveyard while you do not control a "Valkyrie" monster, remove it from play.

I'd rather buff it up and put a limit on it than have it so costly that it's unplayable...

Card Name: Viking Seawolves
Card Type: Monster/Effect
Attribute: EARTH
Type: Warrior
Level: 6
ATK/DEF: 2500/1900
Card Text: This card cannot be Special Summoned from the Graveyard except by the effect of "Ragnarok". If you declare an attack with this card, discard 1 card from your hand. When this card destroys a monster by battle, you can select 1 Spell or Trap card on your opponent's side of the field and set it face-down on your side of the field. During your End Phase, return this card to the bottom of your deck and Special Summon it during your next Standby Phase. If this card is sent to the Graveyard while you do not control a "Valkyrie" monster, remove it from play.

Card Name: Viking Berserker
Card Type: Monster/Effect
Attribute: EARTH
Type: Warrior
Level: 4
ATK/DEF: 2400/0
Card Text: This card cannot be Special Summoned except from the Graveyard by the effect of "Ragnarok". This card can only be Normal Summoned if your opponent controls 2 or more monsters. When this card is Normal Summoned, destroy all non-"Viking" monsters you control and return all "Viking" monsters you control to their owners' hands. Once per turn, if this card would be destroyed by battle, it is not destroyed. When this card declares an attack, it must attack all monsters on the field once each. If this card is sent to the Graveyard while you do not control a "Valkyrie" monster, remove it from play.

Card Name: Viking Axeman
Card Type: Monster/Effect
Attribute: EARTH
Type: Warrior
Level: 4
ATK/DEF: 2000/1000
Card Text: This card cannot be Special Summoned from the Graveyard except by the effect of "Ragnarok". If this card is sent to the Graveyard while you do not control a "Valkyrie" monster, remove it from play.

Card Name: Viking Raider
Card Type: Monster/Effect
Attribute: EARTH
Type: Warrior
Level: 4
ATK/DEF: 1850/1700
Card Text: This card cannot be Special Summoned from the Graveyard except by the effect of "Ragnarok". During battle between this attacking card and a Defense Position monster whose DEF is lower than the ATK of this card, inflict the difference as Battle Damage to your opponent. If this card is sent to the Graveyard while you do not control a "Valkyrie" monster, remove it from play.

Card Name: Masterful Shipwright
Card Type: Monster/Effect
Attribute: EARTH
Type: Warrior
Level: 1
ATK/DEF: 100/100
Card Text: This card cannot be Summoned or Set. This card cannot be used as a discard cost. You can reveal this card in your hand to add 1 "Viking Longship" from your Deck or Graveyard to your hand.

Card Name: Ragnarok
Card Type: Spell
Card Text: Halve your Life Points and return all face-up "Valkyrie" monsters on your side of the field to the bottom of your deck to destroy all cards on the field. Then Special Summon as many "Viking" monsters from your Graveyard as possible. During the End Phase of the turn you activate this card, remove from play all cards on the field, in your hand and in both Graveyards. The activation and effect of this card cannot be negated.


Effects may seem plain, but honestly, I don't think there's a better way to represent Vikings than honest-to-god beatdown.

Re: Card Set Revision: Tribute to Odin [NMV]

Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 10:53 am
by schyshter
Akirus wrote:
Cover Card

Card Name: Thorkell the Tall
Card Type: Monster/Effect
Attribute: EARTH
Type: Warrior
Level: 8
ATK/DEF: 3000/2800
Card Text: This card cannot be Normal Summoned or Set. This card can only be Special Summoned by Tributing 3 monsters on your side of the field or by the effect of "Ragnarok". During your Standby Phase, Tribute 1 monster on your side of the field or discard 1 card from your hand. If you do not, this face-up card is sent to the Graveyard. Two times per turn, if this card would be destroyed, it is not destroyed. Battle Damage inflicted by this card is doubled. If this card is sent to the Graveyard while you do not control a "Valkyrie" monster, remove it from play. This card is a "Viking" monster.

nothing wrong here, other than the effect being jumbled summat.

Card Name: Thorkell the Tall
Card Type: Monster/Effect
Attribute: EARTH
Type: Warrior
Level: 8
ATK/DEF: 3000/2800
Card Text: This card cannot be Normal Summoned or Set. This card can only be Special Summoned by Tributing 3 monsters on your side of the field or by the effect of "Ragnarok". This card is a treated as a "Viking" monster. During your Standby Phase, Tribute 1 monster on your side of the field or discard 1 card from your hand. If you do not, this face-up card is sent to the Graveyard. If this card is sent to the Graveyard while you do not control a "Valkyrie" monster, remove it from play. Two times per turn, if this card would be destroyed, it is not destroyed. Battle Damage inflicted by this card is doubled.

better, i think...


Valkyries

Card Name: The Wild Storm Valkyrie, Kara
Card Type: Monster/Effect
Attribute: LIGHT
Type: Fairy
Level: 4
ATK/DEF: 1700/1400
Card Text: This card cannot be destroyed or sent to the Graveyard. This card cannot attack or be selected as an attack target. If a monster your opponent controls attacks, you can change the target to another face-up monster you control. Once per turn, if a "Viking" monster you control attacks, increase its ATK by 500 during Damage Calculation. If you control 3 "Valkyrie" monsters on your side of the field, if a monster would be destroyed by battle, you can destroy the other monster instead. Return this card to your deck during your second End Phase after either player last declares an attack. You can only control 1 "The Wild Storm Valkyrie, Kara" at a time.

Card Name: The Wild Storm Valkyrie, Kara
Card Type: Monster/Effect
Attribute: LIGHT
Type: Fairy
Level: 4
ATK/DEF: 1700/1400
Card Text: This card cannot be destroyed or sent to the Graveyard. This card cannot attack or be selected as an attack target. If a monster your opponent controls attacks, you can change the target to another face-up monster you control. Once per turn, if a "Viking" monster you control attacks, increase its ATK by 500 during Damage Calculation. As long as you control 3 "Valkyrie" monsters, when a monster you control would be destroyed by your opponent's monster as a result of battle, you can destroy your opponent's monster instead. Return this card to your deck during your second End Phase after either player last declares an attack. You can only control 1 "The Wild Storm Valkyrie, Kara" at a time.


just a Q on these Valks: you can't redirect the attack to another Valk, yeah...?

Norse Warriors

Card Name: Viking Seawolf Raiders
Card Type: Monster/Effect
Attribute: EARTH
Type: Warrior
Level: 6
ATK/DEF: 2500/1900
Card Text: This card cannot be Special Summoned from the Graveyard except by the effect of "Ragnarok". If you declare an attack with this card, discard 1 card from your hand. When this card destroys a monster by battle, you can select 1 Spell or Trap card on your opponent's side of the field and set it face-down on your side of the field. During your End Phase, return this card to the bottom of your deck and Special Summon it during your next Standby Phase. If this card is sent to the Graveyard while you do not control a "Valkyrie" monster, remove it from play.

wow. i never really took note of this one, Akirus. it's so... different. very creative :D

Card Name: Viking Berserker
Card Type: Monster/Effect
Attribute: EARTH
Type: Warrior
Level: 4
ATK/DEF: 2400/0
Card Text: This card cannot be Special Summoned from the Graveyard except by the effect of "Ragnarok". This card can only be Normal Summoned by returning all "Viking" monsters on your side of the field to your Deck while your opponent controls at least 1 monster. Once per turn, if this card would be destroyed by battle, it is not destroyed. When this card declares an attack, it must attack all monsters on the field once each. During your second End Phase after Summoning this card, return it to your Deck and Special Summon 1 "Viking Axeman" or "Viking Mercenary" from your hand or Deck. If this card is sent to the Graveyard while you do not control a "Valkyrie" monster, remove it from play.

Card Name: Viking Mercenary
Card Type: Monster/Effect
Attribute: EARTH
Type: Warrior
Level: 4
ATK/DEF: 1500/1500
Card Text: This card cannot be Special Summoned from the Graveyard except by the effect of "Ragnarok". Once per turn, during your Main Phase, you can pay up to 2000 Life Points to have this card gain ATK equal to that amount until your opponent's next End Phase. During your opponent's Main Phase, your opponent can discard 2 cards to take control of this card. If this card is sent to the Graveyard while you do not control a "Valkyrie" monster, remove it from play.

Viking Inventory

Card Name: Amanita Muscaria
Card Type: Spell
Card Text: Return 1 "Viking Axeman" or 1 "Viking Mercenary" to the bottom of your Deck to Special Summon 1 "Viking Berserker" from your hand or Deck.

Card Name: Legendary Stronghold Jomsburg
Card Type: Spell/Continuous
Card Text: Once per turn, you can discard 1 "Viking Longship" from your hand to the Graveyard to Special Summon 1 Level 4 or lower "Viking" monster from your Deck.

Card Name: Ragnarok
Card Type: Spell
Card Text: Halve your Life Points and return all face-up "Valkyrie" monsters on your side of the field to the bottom of your Deck to destroy all cards on the field. Then Special Summon as many "Viking" monsters from your Graveyard as possible. During the End Phase of the turn you activate this card, remove from play all cards on the field, in your hand and in both Graveyards.

i just realized how royally f***ed you'd be if your opponent chains Roar XD

Card Name: Viking Longship
Card Type: Spell/Quick-Play
Card Text: Return 1 "Viking" monster to the bottom of your Deck. Special Summon it during your next Standby Phase.

Card Name: Viking Slave Market
Card Type: Spell/Continuous
Card Text: When an opponent's monster is destroyed by battle by a "Viking" monster, instead of sending it to the Graveyard, take control of the destroyed monster. Its name is treated as "Slave". Its ATK and DEF become 0, its level is reduced to 1 and its effect is negated. When this card removed from the field, destroy all "Slave" cards on your side of the field. A monster destroyed by this effect is Special Summoned to its owner side of the field.

Card Name: Viking Slave Market (it fits the theme, but not what's generally allowed IRL)
Card Type: Spell/Continuous
Card Text: When an opponent's monster is destroyed by battle by a "Viking" monster, instead of sending it to the Graveyard, take control of the destroyed monster. Its name is treated as "X", its ATK and DEF become 0, its level is reduced to 1 and its effect is negated. When this card removed from the field, destroy all "X" monsters you control. A monster destroyed by this effect is Special Summoned to its owner side of the field (during the End Phase, maybe?).

Re: Card Set Revision: Tribute to Odin [NMV]

Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 2:01 am
by Akirus
You missed my above post, I made some changes.
schyshter wrote:
Akirus wrote:
Cover Card

Card Name: Thorkell the Tall
Card Type: Monster/Effect
Attribute: EARTH
Type: Warrior
Level: 8
ATK/DEF: 3000/2800
Card Text: This card cannot be Normal Summoned or Set. This card can only be Special Summoned by Tributing 3 monsters on your side of the field or by the effect of "Ragnarok". During your Standby Phase, Tribute 1 monster on your side of the field or discard 1 card from your hand. If you do not, this face-up card is sent to the Graveyard. Two times per turn, if this card would be destroyed, it is not destroyed. Battle Damage inflicted by this card is doubled. If this card is sent to the Graveyard while you do not control a "Valkyrie" monster, remove it from play. This card is a "Viking" monster.

nothing wrong here, other than the effect being jumbled summat.

Card Name: Thorkell the Tall
Card Type: Monster/Effect
Attribute: EARTH
Type: Warrior
Level: 8
ATK/DEF: 3000/2800
Card Text: This card cannot be Normal Summoned or Set. This card can only be Special Summoned by Tributing 3 monsters on your side of the field or by the effect of "Ragnarok". This card is a treated as a "Viking" monster. During your Standby Phase, Tribute 1 monster on your side of the field or discard 1 card from your hand. If you do not, this face-up card is sent to the Graveyard. If this card is sent to the Graveyard while you do not control a "Valkyrie" monster, remove it from play. Two times per turn, if this card would be destroyed, it is not destroyed. Battle Damage inflicted by this card is doubled.

better, i think...


I wanted to change this up, cut out a lot of lines. A lot more powerful but I'd rather a limitation than what it is now (it's useless in the same way Plasma is useless; the cost is way too high).

Card Name: Thorkell the Tall
Card Type: Monster/Effect
Attribute: EARTH
Type: Warrior
Level: 8
ATK/DEF: 3000/2800
Card Text: This card cannot be Special Summoned except from the Graveyard by the effect of "Ragnarok". This card is treated a "Viking" monster. If this card is sent to the Graveyard while you do not control a "Valkyrie" monster, remove it from play. Two times per turn, if this card would be destroyed by battle, it is not destroyed OR once per turn, if this card would be destroyed by a card effect, it is not destroyed. Battle Damage inflicted by this card is doubled.

Made a few more tweaks, feedback on the new version would be great since I'm not quite sure how powerful a card like this will be.


Valkyries

Card Name: The Wild Storm Valkyrie, Kara
Card Type: Monster/Effect
Attribute: LIGHT
Type: Fairy
Level: 4
ATK/DEF: 1700/1400
Card Text: This card cannot be destroyed or sent to the Graveyard. This card cannot attack or be selected as an attack target. If a monster your opponent controls attacks, you can change the target to another face-up monster you control. Once per turn, if a "Viking" monster you control attacks, increase its ATK by 500 during Damage Calculation. If you control 3 "Valkyrie" monsters on your side of the field, if a monster would be destroyed by battle, you can destroy the other monster instead. Return this card to your deck during your second End Phase after either player last declares an attack. You can only control 1 "The Wild Storm Valkyrie, Kara" at a time.

Card Name: The Wild Storm Valkyrie, Kara
Card Type: Monster/Effect
Attribute: LIGHT
Type: Fairy
Level: 4
ATK/DEF: 1700/1400
Card Text: This card cannot be destroyed or sent to the Graveyard. This card cannot attack or be selected as an attack target. If a monster your opponent controls attacks, you can change the target to another face-up monster you control. Once per turn, if a "Viking" monster you control attacks, increase its ATK by 500 during Damage Calculation. As long as you control 3 "Valkyrie" monsters, when a monster you control would be destroyed by your opponent's monster as a result of battle, you can destroy your opponent's monster instead. Return this card to your deck during your second End Phase after either player last declares an attack. You can only control 1 "The Wild Storm Valkyrie, Kara" at a time.


just a Q on these Valks: you can't redirect the attack to another Valk, yeah...?

Yep, since you cannot select them as an attack target as indicated by the second line. If Valks are the only monsters on the field then it must be a direct attack. Of course, there is Skill Drain...

Norse Warriors

Card Name: Viking Seawolf Raiders
Card Type: Monster/Effect
Attribute: EARTH
Type: Warrior
Level: 6
ATK/DEF: 2500/1900
Card Text: This card cannot be Special Summoned from the Graveyard except by the effect of "Ragnarok". If you declare an attack with this card, discard 1 card from your hand. When this card destroys a monster by battle, you can select 1 Spell or Trap card on your opponent's side of the field and set it face-down on your side of the field. During your End Phase, return this card to the bottom of your deck and Special Summon it during your next Standby Phase. If this card is sent to the Graveyard while you do not control a "Valkyrie" monster, remove it from play.

wow. i never really took note of this one, Akirus. it's so... different. very creative :D

Ta.

Card Name: Viking Berserker
Card Type: Monster/Effect
Attribute: EARTH
Type: Warrior
Level: 4
ATK/DEF: 2400/0
Card Text: This card cannot be Special Summoned from the Graveyard except by the effect of "Ragnarok". This card can only be Normal Summoned by returning all "Viking" monsters on your side of the field to your Deck while your opponent controls at least 1 monster. Once per turn, if this card would be destroyed by battle, it is not destroyed. When this card declares an attack, it must attack all monsters on the field once each. During your second End Phase after Summoning this card, return it to your Deck and Special Summon 1 "Viking Axeman" or "Viking Mercenary" from your hand or Deck. If this card is sent to the Graveyard while you do not control a "Valkyrie" monster, remove it from play.

New spin on it:

Card Name: Viking Berserker
Card Type: Monster/Effect
Attribute: EARTH
Type: Warrior
Level: 4
ATK/DEF: 2400/0
Card Text: This card cannot be Special Summoned except from the Graveyard by the effect of "Ragnarok". This card can only be Normal Summoned if your opponent controls 2 or more monsters. When this card is Normal Summoned, destroy all non-"Viking" monsters you control and return all "Viking" monsters you control to their owners' hands. Once per turn, if this card would be destroyed by battle, it is not destroyed. When this card declares an attack, it must attack all monsters on the field once each. If this card is sent to the Graveyard while you do not control a "Valkyrie" monster, remove it from play.


Card Name: Viking Mercenary
Card Type: Monster/Effect
Attribute: EARTH
Type: Warrior
Level: 4
ATK/DEF: 1500/1500
Card Text: This card cannot be Special Summoned from the Graveyard except by the effect of "Ragnarok". Once per turn, during your Main Phase, you can pay up to 2000 Life Points to have this card gain ATK equal to that amount until your opponent's next End Phase. During your opponent's Main Phase, your opponent can discard 2 cards to take control of this card. If this card is sent to the Graveyard while you do not control a "Valkyrie" monster, remove it from play.

Viking Inventory

Card Name: Amanita Muscaria
Card Type: Spell
Card Text: Return 1 "Viking Axeman" or 1 "Viking Mercenary" to the bottom of your Deck to Special Summon 1 "Viking Berserker" from your hand or Deck.

This card is being cut.

Card Name: Legendary Stronghold Jomsburg
Card Type: Spell/Continuous
Card Text: Once per turn, you can discard 1 "Viking Longship" from your hand to the Graveyard to Special Summon 1 Level 4 or lower "Viking" monster from your Deck.

Card Name: Ragnarok
Card Type: Spell
Card Text: Halve your Life Points and return all face-up "Valkyrie" monsters on your side of the field to the bottom of your Deck to destroy all cards on the field. Then Special Summon as many "Viking" monsters from your Graveyard as possible. During the End Phase of the turn you activate this card, remove from play all cards on the field, in your hand and in both Graveyards.

i just realized how royally f***ed you'd be if your opponent chains Roar XD

Card Name: Ragnarok
Card Type: Spell
Card Text: Halve your Life Points and return all face-up "Valkyrie" monsters on your side of the field to the bottom of your Deck to destroy all cards on the field. Then Special Summon as many "Viking" monsters from your Graveyard as possible. During the End Phase of the turn you activate this card, remove from play all cards on the field, in your hand and in both Graveyards. The activation of this card cannot be negated.


Card Name: Viking Longship
Card Type: Spell/Quick-Play
Card Text: Return 1 "Viking" monster to the bottom of your Deck. Special Summon it during your next Standby Phase.

Card Name: Viking Slave Market
Card Type: Spell/Continuous
Card Text: When an opponent's monster is destroyed by battle by a "Viking" monster, instead of sending it to the Graveyard, take control of the destroyed monster. Its name is treated as "Slave". Its ATK and DEF become 0, its level is reduced to 1 and its effect is negated. When this card removed from the field, destroy all "Slave" cards on your side of the field. A monster destroyed by this effect is Special Summoned to its owner side of the field.

Card Name: Viking Slave Market (it fits the theme, but not what's generally allowed IRL) - Bomber mentioned this, but do we really need to censor our stuff like Konami? =/
Card Type: Spell/Continuous
Card Text: When an opponent's monster is destroyed by battle by a "Viking" monster, instead of sending it to the Graveyard, take control of the destroyed monster. Its name is treated as "X", its ATK and DEF become 0, its level is reduced to 1 and its effect is negated. When this card removed from the field, destroy all "X" monsters you control. A monster destroyed by this effect is Special Summoned to its owner side of the field (during the End Phase, maybe? )-done.

Re: Card Set Revision: Tribute to Odin [NMV]

Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 3:01 am
by Aleva
Your new "Ragnarok" still doesn't help against Roar/Waboku. Add like.. "Your opponent cannot chain cards in response to this card's effect" or something if you want it to be a surefire finisher

Re: Card Set Revision: Tribute to Odin [NMV]

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 4:52 am
by Akirus
Aleva wrote:Your new "Ragnarok" still doesn't help against Roar/Waboku. Add like.. "Your opponent cannot chain cards in response to this card's effect" or something if you want it to be a surefire finisher
Done.

Any last comments before I finish up this revision?