ARGCS Edison - 6/13 and 6/14

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ARGCS Edison - 6/13 and 6/14

Post by einstein » Sat Jun 13, 2015 10:40 pm

About 300 people this time, so a bit larger than the last one.

Top 16:
9 Nekroz
6 BA
1 Shaddoll

6 BA is interesting, I'd like to see how the Nekroz matchup works with that deck.
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Re: ARGCS Edison - 6/13 and 6/14

Post by moonsaber » Sun Jun 14, 2015 12:16 am

einstein wrote:About 300 people this time, so a bit larger than the last one.

Top 16:
9 Nekroz
6 BA
1 Shaddoll

6 BA is interesting, I'd like to see how the Nekroz matchup works with that deck.
I dont know how BA keeps topping. It's so hard for nekroz to lose that matchup, unless the nekroz player sucks.

There were no BA decks in top cut at oceas it was like:

10 Nekroz
3 Qliphort
2 Satellar
1 Shaddoll

it seems that the American and EU/OCE scenes are very different.

In America I see a lot more BA topping while in EU/OCE I see more satellar and shaddoll.

Honestly I'm not sure how any of those 3 decks top. Realistically I would expect every top cut to be just Nekroz with a splash of qliphort because I don't think the other decks can compete with Nekroz if they are playing against decent Nekroz players.
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Re: ARGCS Edison - 6/13 and 6/14

Post by Lord dragon » Sun Jun 14, 2015 12:46 am

Not sure why you discount Satellars.
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Re: ARGCS Edison - 6/13 and 6/14

Post by moonsaber » Mon Jun 15, 2015 1:08 am

Lord dragon wrote:Not sure why you discount Satellars.
Because any decent nekroz player will smash that deck. Ive played over 100 matches against satellar and I have only ever lost one match.
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Post by einstein » Mon Jun 15, 2015 3:08 pm

And BA wins :o
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Post by Lord dragon » Mon Jun 15, 2015 3:44 pm

What can I say, I win about half my matches against Nekroz. And they are definitely good players.
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Re: ARGCS Edison - 6/13 and 6/14

Post by LewieGee » Mon Jun 15, 2015 5:39 pm

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Lord dragon wrote:Not sure why you discount Satellars.
Because any decent nekroz player will smash that deck. Ive played over 100 matches against satellar and I have only ever lost one match.

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Post by moonsaber » Tue Jun 16, 2015 10:20 am

Lord dragon wrote:What can I say, I win about half my matches against Nekroz. And they are definitely good players.
If they are losing that much to Satellar then i doubt they are good. Satellar is very good at beating bad players and very bad at beating good players.
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Re: ARGCS Edison - 6/13 and 6/14

Post by Lord dragon » Tue Jun 16, 2015 2:08 pm

Uh huh, or maybe you only have experience with bad Satellarknight players
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Post by moonsaber » Tue Jun 16, 2015 7:13 pm

Lord dragon wrote:Uh huh, or maybe you only have experience with bad Satellarknight players
You don't need a brain to play Satellar.
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Re: ARGCS Edison - 6/13 and 6/14

Post by Lord dragon » Tue Jun 16, 2015 8:36 pm

No, but you need one to win.
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Post by moonsaber » Tue Jun 16, 2015 10:43 pm

Lord dragon wrote:No, but you need one to win.
No, you don't.

Besides the people I played against include several national champions as well as several people who topped the last aus YCS.

So yea.
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Re: ARGCS Edison - 6/13 and 6/14

Post by Lord dragon » Tue Jun 16, 2015 11:08 pm

So yeah, what won the UK Nationals?

Look regardless of what you think, good decks top. And Tellars happen to top.
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Re: ARGCS Edison - 6/13 and 6/14

Post by moonsaber » Wed Jun 17, 2015 3:03 am

Lord dragon wrote:So yeah, what won the UK Nationals?

Look regardless of what you think, good decks top. And Tellars happen to top.
That's not necessarily true. Tellars almost always has the highest or one of the highest representation of any other deck. Of course a couple are bound to sneak in.

The performance of tellars relative to the number playing it is rather poor.

Also most people suck at nekroz so it is easy for tellar plays to beat those players.

Also if you open t king or emptiness it can be easy to win but that isnt really tellars. Thats getting lucky with 2 generic limited cards.
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