Treacherous Trap Hole should get Banned

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Treacherous Trap Hole should get Banned

Post by Guardian Skunk » Wed Feb 03, 2016 1:06 am

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Treacherous_Trap_Hole

This card should be banned, because of Traptrix Rafflesia (http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Traptrix_Rafflesia). This card is overly used in decks that has access to Rafflesia (Mainly EmEm) and its really hard to take down Rafflesia (Outside of Raigeki, Dark Hole, Kaijus/Lava Golem, Forbidden Chalice). Treacherous Trap Hole is the ONLY Hole Normal Trap that is not reactive and can activate at anytime, as long as you control no trap cards in your graveyard, and there are 2 or more monsters on the field. Banning Treacherous will make Traptrix Rafflesia less annoying than it already is.

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Re: Treacherous Trap Hole should get Banned

Post by Rowwdy Yisb » Wed Feb 03, 2016 1:57 am

Just ban Rafflesia since that's clearly the problem card?
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Re: Treacherous Trap Hole should get Banned

Post by Guardian Skunk » Wed Feb 03, 2016 2:10 am

Rowwdy Yisb wrote:Just ban Rafflesia since that's clearly the problem card?
Well Rafflesia is a still new and its somewhat of a money card. Treacherous Trap Hole has been out since Crossroads Of Chaos
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Re: Treacherous Trap Hole should get Banned

Post by moonsaber » Wed Feb 03, 2016 3:22 am

Rafflesia isnt even worth a ban with treacherous.

There are much bigger problems lol.
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Re: Treacherous Trap Hole should get Banned

Post by Guardian Skunk » Wed Feb 03, 2016 5:05 am

moonsaber wrote:Rafflesia isnt even worth a ban with treacherous.

There are much bigger problems lol.
Yes there are. But unlike the other Hole Normal Trap, Treacherous Trap Hole through Rafflesia is hard to play around since Treacherous Trap Hole can hit any 2 monsters on the field at any time and all the other Hole Normal Traps usually hits monster(s) upon summon or the turn they are summoned.
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Re: Treacherous Trap Hole should get Banned

Post by XYZ Dragon Cannon » Wed Feb 03, 2016 7:07 am

Bottomless and Time Space are much more threatening than Treacherous.
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Re: Treacherous Trap Hole should get Banned

Post by Wallaceman105 » Wed Feb 03, 2016 8:36 am

XYZ Dragon Cannon wrote:Bottomless and Time Space are much more threatening than Treacherous.
Or even traptrix traphole nightmare.
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Re: Treacherous Trap Hole should get Banned

Post by Rowwdy Yisb » Wed Feb 03, 2016 8:54 am

Wallaceman105 wrote:
XYZ Dragon Cannon wrote:Bottomless and Time Space are much more threatening than Treacherous.
Or even traptrix traphole nightmare.
Not run in any relevant deck rip
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Re: Treacherous Trap Hole should get Banned

Post by Guardian Skunk » Wed Feb 03, 2016 3:23 pm

XYZ Dragon Cannon wrote:Bottomless and Time Space are much more threatening than Treacherous.
Bottomless Trap Hole and Time Space Trap Hole are reactive cards upon summon, Treacherous Trap Hole activates anytime, It hits set monsters and/or monsters that are already on the field, something Bottomless and Time Space cannot do. Also who is playing Bottomless Trap Hole atm?
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Re: Treacherous Trap Hole should get Banned

Post by Rowwdy Yisb » Wed Feb 03, 2016 3:28 pm

Bottomless and Timespace hit pendulums gg
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Re: Treacherous Trap Hole should get Banned

Post by ventes183 » Wed Feb 03, 2016 7:12 pm

Rowwdy Yisb wrote:Bottomless and Timespace hit pendulums gg
Which is why the other 2 holes are still used. Pe mirrors flood pendulum means treacherous is not a good idea some times. I've seen situations where they throw space time/bottomless as first trap instead because of the pendulum summon
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Re: Treacherous Trap Hole should get Banned

Post by XYZ Dragon Cannon » Wed Feb 03, 2016 9:00 pm

Guardian Skunk wrote:
XYZ Dragon Cannon wrote:Bottomless and Time Space are much more threatening than Treacherous.
Bottomless Trap Hole and Time Space Trap Hole are reactive cards upon summon, Treacherous Trap Hole activates anytime, It hits set monsters and/or monsters that are already on the field, something Bottomless and Time Space cannot do. Also who is playing Bottomless Trap Hole atm?
Why would you make a Rafflesia when your opponent already has an established board?

If you're trying to push over your opponents field, the threat of a Bottomless or a Time Space hitting your pendulum summon is much more threatening than a Treacherous hitting two of your monsters.

Wouldn't have a clue. All the PePe builds look the same so there isn't any point in looking. If they're playing Rafflesia properly, they should be playing Time Space and/or Bottomless. Or just Solemn Strikes.

Treacherous is an alright card, but it's certainly not threatening or ban worthy.
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Re: Treacherous Trap Hole should get Banned

Post by #SparksForGame » Thu Feb 04, 2016 8:38 am

Treacherous Trap Hole needs you to have no traps in grave, making your plays a bit more conservative. Having everything banished or sent back to deck is more terrifying.
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