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I can't make this work...

Post by Wallaceman105 » Mon Oct 20, 2014 10:38 am

HERO Monarchs.
I've been trying to make it work. With all the search power of heros, you'd be able to run a ton of monarchs without clogging.
Problem is, I can't get it to work. Is there anybody who can?
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Re: I can't make this work...

Post by Lithium » Mon Oct 20, 2014 10:47 am

Not really my forte but imo Heroes and Monarchs have little to no synergy for it to work properly like you want it to. :/
Just cuz Heroes have an overload of search power does not mean it can then be supplemented to the advantage of Monarchs as Monarchs are still generally slow anyways

Do you see my point?
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Re: I can't make this work...

Post by Wallaceman105 » Mon Oct 20, 2014 11:17 am

Yeah...I just like impossible challenges xD
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Re: I can't make this work...

Post by dracostrike » Mon Oct 20, 2014 7:36 pm

I would run SS material for the HEROs like A hero lives but other than that, I don't know what you could do
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Re: I can't make this work...

Post by XYZ Dragon Cannon » Mon Oct 20, 2014 10:13 pm

It's not working because there is zero synergy between those two archetypes.
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Re: I can't make this work...

Post by Wallaceman105 » Tue Oct 21, 2014 1:09 pm

I would need a 15-card starting hand to win.
Although I've never considered cards like A Hero lives...I'm still gonna keep trying. Who knows, perhaps there will one day be a Cyber Dragon HERO monster...
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Re: I can't make this work...

Post by XYZ Dragon Cannon » Tue Oct 21, 2014 7:47 pm

There is.

He's called Bubbleman.
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Re: I can't make this work...

Post by Wallaceman105 » Wed Oct 22, 2014 11:04 am

One that's more like CyDra, as in only requires no monsters.
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Post by Zanrith » Wed Oct 22, 2014 6:08 pm

The neat thing about Bubbleman is you can control monsters and still summon it anyway.
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Re: I can't make this work...

Post by Wallaceman105 » Thu Oct 23, 2014 11:26 am

Yeah but no other cards=no monarchs so he's no good as fodder.
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Re: I can't make this work...

Post by XYZ Dragon Cannon » Thu Oct 23, 2014 8:55 pm

Thus why I never see a Monarch HERO deck working.
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Re: I can't make this work...

Post by Zeronex » Thu Oct 23, 2014 10:43 pm

Pester Konami to unban UO, and then maaaybe this will be a thing.
Until then, your best bet is Change Frognarch.
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Re: I can't make this work...

Post by arkain07 » Fri Oct 24, 2014 12:47 am

Atumman105 wrote:HERO Monarchs.
I've been trying to make it work. With all the search power of heros, you'd be able to run a ton of monarchs without clogging.
Problem is, I can't get it to work. Is there anybody who can?
you are using the wrong Heros then. D Hero Monarchs gives you Mali to work with and rank 6's and PSZ with DAD and a few other things like D Draw as well as 3 Duality and Allure of Darkness with 3 Rota now and 3 Dimond Dude. If you are looking to run Hero Monarchs you need the D Heros. I had a build for D, Hero Frognarchs. Only card we are missing to have perfect circle monarchs is Dasher. if dasher was playable then we will talk about everything spalshing D heros again. Now with that deck you will need rota, Diamond Dude and Armageddon Knight with mathamaticians. and you want 2 treeborns just for a consistent engine. if you want to play Frog, hero, monarchs you can do that too but you only have 1 tidal now however you do have 2 Gorz.

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But note i still use the frog engine as well. if I had 2 gorz and 3 tidal now then we will talk.

Kinda trolly though because swap frog can bounce anything back to your hand so you can reuse it. come i handy with Herald of purple light plays and you can do it if you end up with 2 mali's in grave to shuffle one of them back into your deck which i have done that too. PSZ also works with Mali. i mean might make room for that 1 rank 6 of M7 just for a compuls and another graveyard recycles. but the deck gives you more than all you need.
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Re: I can't make this work...

Post by Wallaceman105 » Fri Oct 24, 2014 10:53 am

Oh man, that's sweet. I'm gonna try and change that to a support-friendly version, but that looks nice.
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Re: I can't make this work...

Post by arkain07 » Fri Oct 24, 2014 11:39 pm

Atumman105 wrote:Oh man, that's sweet. I'm gonna try and change that to a support-friendly version, but that looks nice.
Also the fact gorz only loses to Solemn Warning or Black Horn is a plus. The deck has a lot of loops and the fact you can recycle Gorz with Herald of Purple and burn the opponent as well as summon out a token is pretty nice. Big eye seems Legit in the current meta plus you can ss tidal if needed. Can pitch off tidal with Swap frog and still use swap frog as a foder. You have 6 search engines as well and can trigger them with Dudes effect. Only thing i might do is go with Soul Exchange over Storm Forth due to the fact I will still get my Battle phase if I use Exchange and being a normal spell D Dude hits. So if you want Heros go with the D.
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