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TCG List Change

Post by Windsofthepast » Fri Apr 08, 2016 12:29 pm

Hadn't seen anyone else post the (actual) list yet, soez. If this has already been posted and I missed it, sorry :(

The changes are as followed:

==Forbidden==
Performage Damage Juggler
Performage Plushfire
Tellarknight Ptolemaeus
Chicken Game
Wavering Eyes

==Limited==
Luster Pendulum the Dracoslayer
Performapal Monkeyboard
Performapal Skullcrobat Joker
Wisdom-Eye Magician
Elder Entity Norden
Thousand-Eyes Restrict
Ignister Prominence, the Blasting Dracoslayer
Draco Face-off
Reasoning
Upstart Goblin

==Semi-Limited==
Debris Dragon
Allure of Darkness
Emergency Teleport

==No Longer Limited==
Dark Magician of Chaos
Tragoedia
Advanced Ritual Art
Crush Card Virus

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Re: TCG List Change

Post by MysticJhn » Fri Apr 08, 2016 1:27 pm

Wow, they took Thousand-Eyes Restrict off the Foribidden list without a history-bomb errata.
That was one of the 3 I predicted the errata unban for.

Guess someone was looking at the list and finally just said, "Hey guys, did you remember this was banned?"
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Re: TCG List Change

Post by Windsofthepast » Fri Apr 08, 2016 1:37 pm

Realistically speaking though, Thousand-Eyes is largely irrelevant to the current Meta. How are you going to get it out? Instant Fusion? Cool. It can't attack this turn, and its effect keeps you from attack. So you eat a monster and then die. Sweet.

It's unfortunate that they decided to hit Norden instead of the real problem which is Instant Fusion, but I guess this is Konami we're talking about.
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Re: TCG List Change

Post by Gouki » Fri Apr 08, 2016 1:53 pm

instant fusion isn't the problem lol, norden is. that's asinine to think norden is okay
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Re: TCG List Change

Post by Windsofthepast » Fri Apr 08, 2016 2:12 pm

Not really. Norden is only a problem because instant fusion makes it a problem. Tell me, without instant fusion, what decks can make Norden?

And it's not just Norden that makes Instant Fusion a problem. Going back as far as Infernity's you'll see that Instant Fusion saw play in order to push their plays further by bringing out a useless level 3 or 4 monster.

Both are arguably problems, however, without Instant Fusion Norden is largely irrelevant.
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Post by Rowwdy Yisb » Fri Apr 08, 2016 2:34 pm

April Fools list was better
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Re: TCG List Change

Post by Windsofthepast » Fri Apr 08, 2016 2:37 pm

Rowwdy Yisb wrote:April Fools list was better
Not 100% sure I'd agree, honestly. A lot of that list was obviously not going to be hit.

The only thing I'd really change about this list is make it so that Kozmo wasn't getting new product in the next set so I could have hit them harder. Other than that, I'm not really minding this list, aside from the fact I don't have anything to play anymore.
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Re: TCG List Change

Post by Gouki » Fri Apr 08, 2016 2:52 pm

Windsofthepast wrote:Not really. Norden is only a problem because instant fusion makes it a problem. Tell me, without instant fusion, what decks can make Norden?

And it's not just Norden that makes Instant Fusion a problem. Going back as far as Infernity's you'll see that Instant Fusion saw play in order to push their plays further by bringing out a useless level 3 or 4 monster.

Both are arguably problems, however, without Instant Fusion Norden is largely irrelevant.
you take away norden and who would legitimately use instant fusion? look at the ocg meta and tell me who uses the card because the answer is no one. why hit instant fusion, an inherently weak card, instead of hitting the actual problem?
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Post by Dark Jolteon » Fri Apr 08, 2016 3:26 pm

Because norden is fun
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Post by #SparksForGame » Fri Apr 08, 2016 3:38 pm

Windsofthepast wrote:Tell me, without instant fusion, what decks can make Norden?
Decks that play Fusion Substitute, like the now dead Blaze-Fenix deck. Instant Fusion has NEVER been a problem: you pay the cost and hope you don't get negated; you summon Elder Entity Norden and hope the effect doesn't get negated; you special summon the monster and hope that the summon doesn't get negated or mass-field wiped via Torrential Tribute for example.
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Post by Wallaceman105 » Fri Apr 08, 2016 3:56 pm

Chicken Game didn't need a ban, a limit would have been fine.
Upstart should have been hit to 2 at most.
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Re: TCG List Change

Post by Gouki » Fri Apr 08, 2016 4:41 pm

Wallaceman105 wrote:Chicken Game didn't need a ban, a limit would have been fine.
Upstart should have been hit to 2 at most.
both of these statements are wrong. chicken game should have never been printed and the same probably goes for upstart goblin. the cards break konami's rule of a 40 card main deck minimum.


to elaborate, chicken game gave you a free draw while lower your life points. this has been shown to help a plethora of decks, namely ftk decks. a card like life equalizer has an even easier activation condition with cards like chicken game and upstart goblin in play. (life equalizer should still be banned as well)
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Post by sgtc1 » Fri Apr 08, 2016 6:13 pm

LOL THEY HIT UPSTART. LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL. 37 card deck too strong? 3000 LP handicap? Nah that's much too OP. AND CHICKEN GAME LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL.
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Post by einstein » Fri Apr 08, 2016 6:53 pm

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Post by LewieGee » Fri Apr 08, 2016 7:23 pm

sgtc1 wrote:LOL THEY HIT UPSTART. LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL. 37 card deck too strong? 3000 LP handicap? Nah that's much too OP. AND CHICKEN GAME LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL.

hah, I think Upstart was on the list years ago too. Can't remember if it went to 1, but definitely was at 2 for a while.
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