Trump vs Clinton

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Re: Trump vs Clinton

Post by Breese97 » Fri Aug 19, 2016 4:32 pm

Lol ive taken that multiple times. My highest was with the Dank Master himself.
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Re: Trump vs Clinton

Post by MysticJhn » Fri Aug 19, 2016 4:38 pm

My highest was Jill Stein at 77%.
My lowest was Donald Trump at 71%.
Johnson and Clinton were both 74%.

I can only conclude that all the candidates are terrible and I need a new one.
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Re: Trump vs Clinton

Post by Rowwdy Yisb » Fri Aug 19, 2016 5:13 pm

96% on Hillary and Jill Stien, 10% Trump.

Didn't think I shared a lot with Hillary :o
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Re: Trump vs Clinton

Post by Breese97 » Fri Aug 19, 2016 7:17 pm

Took it again and got my highest with Gary Johnson. It was only 80% though. Thats how it always is when I take this test. Ive taken it 3 times and I always get like right in the middle of everything.
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Re: Trump vs Clinton

Post by Michi » Sat Aug 20, 2016 12:51 am

MysticJhn wrote:My highest was Jill Stein at 77%.
My lowest was Donald Trump at 71%.
Johnson and Clinton were both 74%.

I can only conclude that all the candidates are terrible and I need a new one.
Pretty sure I got you beat.

My highest was Donald Trump at 48%.
My lowest was Gary Johnson at 39%.
Clinton was 42%.

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Re: Trump vs Clinton

Post by jwestbro11 » Sat Aug 20, 2016 3:40 am

Wow i got 96% Jill Stein 94 hillary 77 Garry Johnson 22 trump
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Re: Trump vs Clinton

Post by Wallaceman105 » Sat Aug 20, 2016 10:36 am

Jill Stein at 99%
Clinton at 83%
Gary Johnson at 79%
Trump at 12%
That other guy at 4%


The big issue with Clinton is that I cannot get myself to trust any claims she has made. She is backed by the very same people she claims need to be fought, she manipulated or accepted the manipulation of the primary by the DNC, and has wormed her way out of criminal charges multiple times. She's everything wrong with the current system in a single person.

Trump, on the other hand, is just a f*ing loon.
If you cannot see that, you shouldn't be voting.
If you can see that and are still picking him, well, ok then. I don't get it, but sure.
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Re: Trump vs Clinton

Post by jwestbro11 » Sun Aug 21, 2016 2:55 am

Just in the interest of fairness i know a heard a lot of people like trump. I dont know how many "treats" to Obama's life. People speak like that very causally in some places. People will vote for Trump in their right wing bubble he can't have enough to win but I think everyone will be surprised how close it truly is. The only hope Trump has is to try to make it a 3 or 4 person race so his base will seem large in comparison or maybe it is just Marion, Ohio we used to have the largest Ku Klux Klan Membership in the north for a while.
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Re: Trump vs Clinton

Post by Nash » Thu Oct 20, 2016 9:09 pm

sooo what'd everyone think of the debate last night?
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Re: Trump vs Clinton

Post by Evilfaic » Fri Oct 21, 2016 12:47 am

Do we really have to do this again?
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Re: Trump vs Clinton

Post by sgtc1 » Fri Oct 21, 2016 7:28 pm

I didn't even bother to watch it. I assume Hillary will be a slightly better candidate by a thin margin, but I still don't want her as my president. >_<
I can't believe these garbage candidates are actually getting away with this. Our electoral system has needed serious reform, but yea guess that's not gonna happen anytime soon.
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Re: Trump vs Clinton

Post by Evilfaic » Fri Oct 21, 2016 9:47 pm

sgtc1 wrote:Our electoral system has needed serious reform, but yea guess that's not gonna happen anytime soon.
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Re: Trump vs Clinton

Post by Nash » Sat Oct 22, 2016 9:56 am

sgtc1 wrote:I didn't even bother to watch it. I assume Hillary will be a slightly better candidate by a thin margin, but I still don't want her as my president. >_<
I can't believe these garbage candidates are actually getting away with this. Our electoral system has needed serious reform, but yea guess that's not gonna happen anytime soon.
Yeah, we really do. I'm voting today, hopefully 2020 will have better candidates than these two lol
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Re: Trump vs Clinton

Post by LewieGee » Sat Oct 22, 2016 3:27 pm

Stein is really proving that American brands of environmental/communal justice are terrible. It feels like any vaguely progressive movement post-Bernie is just becoming engulfed in that weird American Capital L libertarianism because what else would get votes over there? Green parties outside of the US aren't perfect by any means, but at least their platform isn't based on f*cking vaccination scepticism??

I honestly think if I was eligible to vote in the elections I'd prefer Clinton to her, which is pretty ridiculous
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Re: Trump vs Clinton

Post by Wallaceman105 » Sun Oct 23, 2016 1:34 pm

LewieGee wrote:Stein is really proving that American brands of environmental/communal justice are terrible. It feels like any vaguely progressive movement post-Bernie is just becoming engulfed in that weird American Capital L libertarianism because what else would get votes over there? Green parties outside of the US aren't perfect by any means, but at least their platform isn't based on f*cking vaccination scepticism??

I honestly think if I was eligible to vote in the elections I'd prefer Clinton to her, which is pretty ridiculous
When lewie makes a serious political post, you know we're f*cked.

Tbh, going for Gary Johnson, not because he's the best candidate, but because if any third party candidate wins 5 or more electoral votes, it stops the others from winning the 270.
That's the key here: the electoral college isn't a most-votes-wins system, its who gets that magic 270 number.
If no candidate gets it, then all candidates who received electoral votes are presented to the House of Representatives, and the current Vice President (Joe Biden) becomes acting President. From there the House of Rep can take all the time they want to decide.
Right now, the house is controlled by Republicans, which to the average voter might sound like a trump victory, until you see that the only reason for Trump getting anywhere is because largely, representatives and delegates are not free to 'vote their conscience' - they must vote as their constituents voted in the primaries. In the event of it going to the HoR, the Republican Party can vote as they actually want. This might then seem like throwing it out to Hillary, but something tells me that they'd die before knowingly and deliberately electing her President.
So, in all likelihood, its a toss-up, with a 3rd party having a very good chance.

So vote Gary Johnson in 2016, because he is truly the shiniest turd. What's more, it takes it out of the hands of the American People. And I lose more of my trust for that standard every day of this election.
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