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BAN LIST BAN THE LIST!

Post by Lord dragon » Tue Mar 21, 2017 8:35 pm

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Banned
MAJESPECTER UNICORN - KIRIN
THE TYRANT NEPTUNE
VANITY'S EMPTINESS

Limited
MAXX "C"
RESCUE CAT
BRIONAC, DRAGON OF THE ICE BARRIER
BRAIN CONTROL
FUTURE FUSION
IMPERIAL ORDER

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WISDOM-EYE MAGICIAN
ZOODIAC RATPIER
INTERRUPTED KAIJU SLUMBER

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We finally have a ban list! Woo, Errata'd cards came to one!
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Post by MysticJhn » Wed Mar 22, 2017 2:54 am

Personally I always find it a shame that the only way some old cards can become unbanned is by "errata".
Errata in quotes, because what they use it for now is not the same as what they used to errata for.

On the positive side, we have Sangan back in threes.
Maybe some day we can get Witch of the Black Forest back for Sanwitch plays.
Well, I suppose there's always Fusion substitutes, but it's not the same.
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Post by xion52998 » Wed Mar 22, 2017 4:31 am

I like the erratas as long as the card still has the spirit of the original. The Future Fusion and Imperial Order erratas for example don't really change the card but instead just make it less broken. However, something like Sangan didn't need the errata in the first place, and other cards like crush card and goyo just got slammed and aren't really playable anymore

As for the list, disappointed that strike/barrier remain, but at least vanity's and kirin are gone
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Post by MysticJhn » Wed Mar 22, 2017 5:01 am

I didn't even notice Sangan got an errata.
That's just disappointing.
Most archetype-specific searchers are more powerful than the original Sangan anyway.

If they are going to keep changing historic cards, they might as well start a new card game.
I'd rather cards stayed banned instead of being ruined, at least then you can still use old cards the right way for fun.

Could you imagine if they did one of those "errata" on something like Pot of Greed or Monster Reborn just to get it off the forbidden list?
People would riot.
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Post by dracostrike » Thu Mar 23, 2017 12:59 pm

I wish I knew more so I could react to this list better....As in will Zoodiacs still be tier 0 with semi'ed Rat?
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Post by xion52998 » Thu Mar 23, 2017 5:14 pm

They probably won't be t0, but still be strong. Paleofrogs and 60 card decks will be very good as well, then once we get the new zoos and Ghost Ash we're going to see zoos come back in true Draco zoos with lyca.
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Post by MysticJhn » Thu Mar 23, 2017 6:27 pm

It's kind of disgusting that a single card can turn what used to be considered terrible deck design into a great idea.
A card like that just shouldn't ever be made.
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Post by Rowwdy Yisb » Fri Mar 24, 2017 6:19 pm

Disgusting and great, at the least Lawn opens up some creativity that has been lost in the game in there being a greater deck space to play around with
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Post by MysticJhn » Fri Mar 24, 2017 6:46 pm

There have been decks in the past that used decks larger than 40.
Heck, I had made one that purposely used a larger deck, even if it wasn't that good.
I have nothing against creativity.

It's the fact that it's a single card that does it that's the problem.
I'm having issue with Konami putting out a single card that's stupidly abusable to the point it's created it's own deck.
I also can't call it creativity when it's copied by a couple hundred or couple thousand people.

When half of every effect these days involves Graveyard use, it's foolish for Konami to release a card
that could let someone dump 20 cards into he grave without a care.

Also, I can imagine it's a pain in the bum to duel against in reality since, to resolve it, you both have to count the cards left in the decks.
If this is turn 5 or something and there's a bunch of cards in the Grave and banished on both sides, that'd be so annoying
to have to stop play dead for a few minutes while both players sit there coutning to themselves.
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Post by Lord dragon » Fri Mar 24, 2017 7:13 pm

It's actually not too bad, so long as both players know their original deck size just count what's not in the deck. it really only takes 30 seconds max.

Also, by turn 5 the decks that run this already have a smaller deck or the duels over.

and it hardly created its own deck? It just means there are new variations on decks that milled anyway.

The deck it makes the biggest impact in, Infernoids already had a couple cards that do the same job with arguably a lower 'cost' (Even if the actual gamestate cost is higher)
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Post by xion52998 » Sat Mar 25, 2017 7:00 am

Rowwdy Yisb wrote:
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Disgusting and great, at the least Lawn opens up some creativity that has been lost in the game in there being a greater deck space to play around with
Not really all that creative either, the reasons the card is viable are the infernoids and fairy tale snow, and the latter is basically Minerva turbo with flavors of tin goldfish/zombies/brilliant, and after seeing Minerva + Omega with maybe a snow or a toad every board the whole creativity angle kinda goes out the window
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Post by Rowwdy Yisb » Sat Mar 25, 2017 12:47 pm

I didn't realise this card had such a negative reception amongst the community
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Post by xion52998 » Sat Mar 25, 2017 2:36 pm

Neat concept but the design will lead to degeneracy
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Post by Raphaelsia » Tue Mar 28, 2017 1:04 pm

I'm going to be honest, Brionac and Rescue Cat is still broke as hell :lol:
I'm glad to have them both back though, its just going to be hard now to choose between Brionac and Coral Dragon. As both are considerably good right now.
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Post by dracostrike » Wed Mar 29, 2017 12:48 pm

Anyone got their erratas handy? I'm curious to see how much they have changed
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